now, having said that the expansion of the united states is very slow. we are down to 1 1/2 to 2% of gdp expansion. that is, like phil and i talked many time, the lowest, slowest expansion we have ever had following a deep recession. clearly, one of the worst recessions we have ever been in. we are very pleased that we are recovering in the automobile industry and in ford's care the pent-up demand is incredible. the average age, phil, is like 11 years old now. these new vehicles you can get from ford, you can economically replace your older vehicle. so we are so just gratified that we invested during the toughest time and we have the products now to help lead this economic recovery but it is a slower recovery than we have had in the past, for sure. >> so what did you say? i don't mean to beat this into the ground, yes or no? is america in better shape now than it was four years ago? >> clearly not in the deep recession that we were and we are starting to recover. so, this is a very positive thing. the thing i like about the debate is what can we do to in